Oppo PSA:  If you have a weird hobby, do it behind closed doors

"marshknute" (marshknute) 03/30/2017 at 09:43 • Filed to: None

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Just because you’re allowed to do something doesn’t mean you aren’t an asshole for doing it. If you collect weird shit, don’t do it in public or the village will raise a shitstorm. It’s the classic idiom, “ The nail that sticks out gets hammered down.”

Guess what? Parking a military vehicle in your driveway is an asshole move. Nobody wants to see some big-ass war machine in their pleasant suburban neighborhood. It’s weird, and it freaks people out, and they’re definitely going to assume that some psycho gun fanatic lives next door. That means housing values will go down because nobody wants to move into a neighborhood with a gun fanatic who drives a fucking tank to work.

Yes, I know he’s probably not a gun fanatic, and he’s probably just a gearhead like all of us. But that’s a hell of a first impression to dispel, and no potential homeowner is going to take the time to meet their psycho new neighbor. Instead, they’re just going to move into a neighborhood with normal people. So obviously his neighbors are pissed and grasping at every possible straw to make him behave.

I don’t care if it’s an army truck, firetruck, airplane, boat, trailer, etc. It’s weird, and nobody wants to live next to a weirdo. Stop being an asshole and keep your weirdness under wraps like the rest of us.

And yes, the “commercial vehicle” ordinance is a load of BS given the truck’s current use/owner, but I have absolutely zero sympathy for this guy. Don’t rub against the grain and then complain when you get a splinter.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 09:47

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Guess what? Parking a military vehicle in your driveway is an asshole move.

Unsure if serious. Pretty sure you’re posting to the wrong group. Unless he’s in a deed restricted community, the neighbors can fuck off. It’s an M35, not a tank. There are a billion of them and private ownership of them is common.

Ssfancyfresh > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 09:48

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I’m a secret psycho gun fanatic weirdo. And I live next door.

Rico > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 09:48

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All I’m saying is when the zombie apocalypse happens I would want that guy as my neighbor.

Honeybunchesofgoats > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 09:51

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These stories are something that I can never bring myself to care about one way or another.

BorkBorkBjork > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 09:51

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Because all firearms enthusiasts are psychos.

If only we had some committee that could determine what kind of activities and hobbies were acceptable...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_Un-American_Activities_Committee

Dru > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 09:53

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Kind of a hot take, but that’s what the Internet is for.

I have mixed feelings here. On one hand, it seems totally innocuous to have that vehicle on your personal property. I would rather look at a functioning M35 every day than my former neighbors donked caprice with shitty flaking paint, always one flat tire, and expired out of state tags. On the other hand, it’s a rather large vehicle that does look kind of odd in a residential area. I live around a bunch of old folks who complained to each other about the new neighbors yellow/orange focus ST being an offensive color. *shrug*

Flavien Vidal > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 03/30/2017 at 09:54

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Be it a military truck, an RV or a semi-truck, I would not be happy either... It’s freaking huge and it’s pretty much the only thing you see when you enter the neighborhood. I don’t wouldn’t want ot see this every morning I wake up...

I do understand the passion for it, but rent a freaking hangar in a place where no neighbour will have to see that in front of their home. That’s what I’d do if I had an RV. It’s the normal thing to do if you don’t live in the middle of nowhere all by yourself.

Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif > Ssfancyfresh 03/30/2017 at 09:56

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But that’s ok since you do it behind closed doors.

crowmolly > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 09:58

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Sure, a deuce is cool, and this guy seems to want to do nice stuff with it. But type of ordinance is in place to keep people from parking straight up commercial vehicles in their driveway. A historic fire truck is neat, a semi tractor would not be. Or what about a beat up produce delivery truck? Been there, done that.

marshknute > Ssfancyfresh 03/30/2017 at 09:58

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Out of sight, out of mind. If people aren’t wise to your weirdness, they have no reason to put a stop to it.

Azrek > Honeybunchesofgoats 03/30/2017 at 09:58

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These just remind me that neighborhoods are a cesspool of angry, cranky and just bored people. Their world is ok as long as everyone lives by their rules.
I am way too passive aggressive to allow stuff like this to fly for very long.

PartyPooper2012 > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 09:59

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Would it have made a difference if he parked Hummer H1 in the driveway? Possibly with the turret still on top? H1s are abundant. Maybe not with a turret but still. You can find them post military use and regular civilian use.

Some people have trains parked in their backyard.

Some people have tractors parked. Who the fuck gives a shit? Everyone is too fucking sensitive these days. boo hoo. Eyes hurt looking at a truck.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Flavien Vidal 03/30/2017 at 10:00

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You’ve been in Japan too long. We like our freedom here and we don’t like people telling us what to do with our property.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 03/30/2017 at 10:01

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‘The neighbors can fuck off’

This is my general attitude. I’m seriously, seriously lucky that I don’t have any. If I did, I wouldn’t be pulling shit like angle-grinding late at night every single day, but if someone ambled up to me out of the blue and told me that I was ‘lowering the housing prices in the neighbourhood’ I’d promptly file that person in the ‘prat’ section of my brain and disregard most of what they say.

Now that’s a hell of a first impression to dispel too.

vondon302 > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 10:01

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These things are huge loud cheap and I so want one but I haven’t got one for this exact reason. Even if I parked it in the back yard some one would bitch or it would sink into the ground.

marshknute > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 03/30/2017 at 10:02

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Again, just because you can do something doesn’t mean you aren’t an asshole for doing it.

It’s like wearing headphones around your neck at work and blasting music for everyone to hear. You’re an asshole, and they’re going to find a way to put a stop to it.

If you do your weird hobby in secret, nobody is any the wiser, so they’ll never complain, and you can keep being weird.

Ssfancyfresh > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 10:03

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Until it’s too late... Mwaa haa haa haa haaaaaaaaAAAAAA!!!!

Urambo Tauro > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 10:04

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I’d be willing to go along with the claim that it counts as a commercial vehicle, if, IF they could back it up with the spirit of the law.

One of the things that was pointed out was that it classifies as a CV because of its weight. So is the street not built to handle that much weight? If he’s parking it in his yard, ruts are his own problem.

Another thing that was mentioned was its physical size. If parked curbside, it could hinder traffic since it’s wider than other vehicles, and reduces visibility too. But I haven’t seen anything that says he’s been parking it on the street at all.

For Sweden > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 10:08

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Don’t be truckphobic

MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 10:08

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I’m all about personal rights and property rights, but the thing about that is your rights end where other’s rights begin. When you start to economically impact others in a way that hurts them, that’s where your rights end. Your neighbors have a right to not have you drive down the value of their home. Park the think in your back yard out of sight and all is well.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 10:09

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Do you even America, bro? Seriously, where are you from, because your argument seems to be that anything other than 50's style repression of individuality is asshole because it might make someone else uncomfortable. If this guy cut the muffler off and spent his days revving his engine, then the headphone argument would make sense, but that’s not what’s going on here. It’s a truck. The guy likes his truck. It’s his truck, it’s his driveway. There’s nothing remotely asshole about that. I’m also confused about how owning an M35 counds as a weird hobby.

marshknute > PartyPooper2012 03/30/2017 at 10:09

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If it costs me money, I give many shits.

I think it’s cool to see weird vehicles on the road, and I think his M35 is badass and awesome, but I’d still be pissed if this guy was my neighbor.

Potential homeowners jump to conclusions, and they won’t move in next to this weirdo. That’s means I’d either have to lower my asking price, or wait for the random Jalop to come house hunting.

Dont give people a reason to complain and you’ll never have a problem. This guy publicly flouted his weird hobby and the neighbors shut him down with some BS ordinance. No sympathy from me.

Tekamul > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 10:10

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boat, trailer, etc. It’s weird, and nobody wants to live next to a weirdo.

That’s a pretty low bar you’re setting there, don’t ya think? It seems like what you’re looking for is some type of commune, or maybe a retirement community.

Is it ok with you if I park my motorcycle in my own driveway?

nermal > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 10:10

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I think it depends. Want to live in a cookie cutter neighborhood where every house looks the same? Fine. Just be prepared to abide by the HOA guidelines. 

Want to park a military truck in your yard / driveway? Move to the country where nobody gives a crap.

Flavien Vidal > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 03/30/2017 at 10:10

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lol. We have a saying in France: “Your freedom stops where other’s begin”. It’s not up to you to impose on others what they have to see and deal with everyday. RV’s that block the sun up until 9am don’t have their place in a neighborhood of any kind, unless people around you are fine with it. According to your logic, up to me to use my property, in the middle of a quiet neighborhood to stock old VCR recorders... Thousands of them! Walls of VCRs!! How about a purple house with balloons and clowns running around right next to Claude Monet’s house and garden??

Because you know, “it’s mah property!!”. Sure it looks like shit to everyone else and it’s a total disrespect toward what the 99 other percent of the population living there want, but fuck them right?? You paid! Your place!!

marshknute > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 03/30/2017 at 10:12

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You have to stop thinking like a Jalop. The average American doesn’t want to see an M35 parked on their street, so obviously they’re going to raise a shitstorm.

I have weird hobbies, and I want people to pursue their weird hobbies. And the best way is to do them is in private. Don’t give people a reason to complain and you’ll never have a problem.

jariten1781 > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 10:12

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I have no strong opinions either way. That said, if you’re going to do something unusual then it’s incumbent on you to read the statutes/regulations/ordinances/by-laws/whatever before hand and not throw a public fit afterwards. Back in the day I’d have more sympathy since you’d have to go to the library or City Hall and there’s not CTRL+F on paper docs...but the internet exists now and my sympathy does not.

Milky > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 10:13

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People open doors too though.

marshknute > nermal 03/30/2017 at 10:14

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This. Don’t be the nail that sticks out. And if you do stick out, make sure it’s on the roof where nobody can see you.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Flavien Vidal 03/30/2017 at 10:14

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Yes, absolutely. If you wanted to stack VCRs around your property, go for it as long as it’s not a safety hazard. This is a truck. The other way of looking at “your freedom stops where other’s begin” is that the neighbors’ freedom to do something about it should stop when his ability to own his property gets infringed upon. M35s are stupid cheap. The assumption that this guy can afford to park it elsewhere is daft.

PartyPooper2012 > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 10:14

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If this guy lived next to me, I would be best friends with him. If you’re selling a house and have a concern your house value may suffer because of his truck, you could ask him to put the truck in backyard where it is less visible. Cover it with tarp. Build and put it into one of these sheds -

There are ways to work with people... or throw a hissy fit and yell that you can’t sell your rotten house in lousy economy.

TorqueToYield > nermal 03/30/2017 at 10:14

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Exactly. I live in a small very suburban NJ neighborhood built in the 50s. The houses are right on top of one another. Most the lots are .25 acre or less. I’d be pissed if my neighbor parked their massive 6 wheeler right next to my house - even if it’s on their property.

On the other hand I have friends in Upstate NY that have hundreds of acres. They have massive trucks, gun ranges, farm animals, you name it. Because their neighbors aren’t right on top of them.

Have some common decency to your neighbors. Not all neighborhoods are suited for giant military vehicles.

Flavien Vidal > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 03/30/2017 at 10:16

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Not how things work luckily... This is why you have cities ordinance forcing people not to paint their houses fluorescent green and HOA forcing people not to generally ruin the whole view for everyone.

marshknute > PartyPooper2012 03/30/2017 at 10:18

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The point is that it never should have gotten to this point.

He publicly flouted his weird hobby. He gave people a reason to complain. Some people deal with it amicable like you suggested. Others go al HOA NIMBY and get him outlawed.

But if he parked it out of sight, nobody would have complained and he would still have friendly neighbors.

V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 10:18

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Why do I think that you’re the neighbor that has kids doing doughnuts and home shots in front of his house?

I’m guessing this won’t fit in his garage or perhaps there is something more important/dear to him in said garage.

For what it’s worth, I personally wouldn’t give a half a shit what’s in his driveway if I were a prospective buyer for your house. In fact, if I did buy your house, this guy and myself would probably get along swimmingly because of his odd car love.

DipodomysDeserti > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 10:19

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There’s a guy in my neighborhood that has that same truck parked in front of his house. Nobody cares. My house has gone up in value 60% in the last five years. I don’t live in an HOA controlled neighborhood because I like freedom. Don’t be the nail that sticks out. What a spineless way to live.

Flavien Vidal > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 03/30/2017 at 10:19

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If it were up to me and if I were to live alone, my yard would be full of rusty cars “waiting for restoration”. But I think of others... I know it’s a freaking pain to wake up in front of a junkyard for others. So I would not do it... And there are no rules for me not to do it where I live... I “legally” could. But fuck that. I’m not an asshole.

PartyPooper2012 > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 10:20

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I am sure he can paint his house pink with yellow dots all over it... and people would complain just as much. people complain all the time about everything... its too sunny. its too rainy. its too cold. its too hot. you’re white, you’re orange.... there is no end to this... I hope you realize this one day.

V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! > Ssfancyfresh 03/30/2017 at 10:20

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I’ll buy his house and we’ll blow stuff up at the local gun range on Thursdays....Cool?

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 10:20

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So your argument is that if you do something outside the mainstream, it should be hidden in case other people get uncomfortable and that the majority has the right to impose restrictions on the minority. Most Americans are still uncomfortable seeing two guys kissing. Are gay couples assholes for making people uncomfortable?

DipodomysDeserti > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 10:24

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Yes, repress yourself to make others feel comfortable and make money! What an aweful way to live.

marshknute > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 03/30/2017 at 10:24

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No.

I don’t care if other people’s feelings get hurt or if their property values go down.

But I do care if they start pestering me and suing me. That’s annoying for me, and I don’t like to be annoyed.

Easiest solution is not to piss them off in the first place. A stealthy weirdo never gets called out on his weirdness.

DipodomysDeserti > MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig 03/30/2017 at 10:26

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Which amendment grants you a favorable ROI?

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Flavien Vidal 03/30/2017 at 10:27

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Non-safety related city ordinances I’m entirely opposed to. HOAs are a different scenario and I don’t really care about them because they’re perfect for keeping annoying suburbanite killjoys in their safe space away from signs of human progress and it’s clear that you’re moving into a place where those restrictions are in place. If this person lived in a community with one, I’d be on the neighbor’s side. He doens’t, so I’m not.

DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 10:28

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What I’m not getting is the sheer number of people who think life should be without compromises because of their perceived “rights”...

This guy was in a gray area and knew it, and now is suffering the consequences. The point isn’t whether this law is “right”...its whether he was following the aforementioned law.

If he has a problem with the law, he, and others in his locale who agree with him, need to rally together and enact change. Or, he can move...

Yeah, yeah, I know, its HIS property, he should be able to do what he wants on his property. WELL, his property is subject to local ordinances (which exist for a reason), which goes back to the whole compromises thing. If having the truck a few hundred feet away from him at any time is that important, then he needs to live somewhere where that is allowed.

The point is, this guy seems like he had a “ask for forgiveness, not permission” mentality, and now is looking to have the world compromise for him, instead the other way around.

marshknute > DipodomysDeserti 03/30/2017 at 10:31

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You know what’s a worse way to live? Being the guy with a spine who gets his beloved M35 taken away because of some BS city ordinance.

If he kept it hidden out of sight in his back yard, nobody would have complained, and he would have been spared years of pestering/lawsuits/ordinances.

Now he’s the guy with a spine who can’t enjoy his hobby because he couldn’t show some common decency in the first place.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 10:31

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You’re really hung up on the word “weird” and keep coming back to “weird” as though it’s an argument.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > DipodomysDeserti 03/30/2017 at 10:35

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Don’t be the nail that sticks out. What a spineless way to live.

THANK YOU!

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Tekamul 03/30/2017 at 10:36

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Probably not because you’re “weird” for it.

crowmolly > DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back 03/30/2017 at 10:38

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Yeah, yeah, I know, its HIS property, he should be able to do what he wants on his property. WELL, his property is subject to local ordinances

Yup. You agreed to these rules when you bought a house in that neighborhood.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > crowmolly 03/30/2017 at 10:38

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Depends on the Semi! A neighbor of mine back in Florida had a vintage Mack truck from the 30s well restored parked on the side of his house and it was badass!

DipodomysDeserti > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 10:42

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How are you supposed to enjoy a truck that is covered up, rusting away in your backyard? That’s not how vehicles work. You get maximum enjoyment by driving them around. At least he got to enjoy himself for a bit. You only live once, and you can’t take any of this shit with you. How you want to live is your prerogative, but there’s a lot of us out there who will gladly absorb to ire of others if it means we can do what we want. It’s that whole Emiliano Zapata deal.

crowmolly > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 03/30/2017 at 10:43

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Right, but that makes it a case by case thing. If your neighbor fired up his semi at 5am every morning you’d probably think differently.

Gub mint don’t work like that.

sonicgabe > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 10:43

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Just hang some sort of protest sign on it and it’s becomes free speech. We have this asshole in Tampa parking this in front of his house and driving it around town all day, every day. (Warning, the link contains words/pictures that may offend some people. The whole situation makes no sense, especially because the guy refuses to explain exactly what it is that he’s trying to accomplish.)

http://www.liberalmountain.com/us-news/confusing-protest-nigger-racing-home-depot

The city can do virtually nothing about it.

Now, as far as my own opinions about parking a giant military truck or firetruck or whatnot in front of your house... just use some common sense. If it looks totally out of place, maybe you should park it somewhere else. But sometimes you get situations that make no sense at all, like large plain trailers/haulers, RVs, and buses. I’m sure most of these situations could be resolved/avoided if people just stopped being assholes for a few minutes. Go over and say hi to the guy who just brought home the the race car hauler before you start leaving passive-aggressive notes in the mailbox. Or if you plan on buying something like that, spend a few months buttering up the neighbors. Invite them to cookouts, mow their lawn a few times... and when you bring it home, how can they be mad at you?

Just because it’s somewhat related... HOAs. Fuck ‘em! I lived with a friend once for a few months after a breakup. The neighborhood was nice, but not fancy. Just regular old suburbs. In fact, it was just one street that looped back out to the main road. It had maybe 40 houses. It had it’s own HOA. The only rule they enforced was “Pick-up trucks without toppers must be parked in the garage overnight.” They were draconian about it. These homes were build in the early 1980s. Most modern, full sized trucks wouldn’t fit in the garages. The homeowners were starting a revolt. Some had accrued lots of fines while fighting to overturn the rule. That was some bullshit. The reason for the rule had something to do with breaking in to houses; how easy it was to remove large items from a house and to just toss them in the open bed of a truck in the middle of the night. I fail to see the logic.

Anyway, that’s my two cents worth. Sorry for the link to the asshole. Didn’t mean to offend anyone.  

V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! > V8Demon - Prefers Autos for drag racing. Fite me! 03/30/2017 at 10:46

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And home shots should be hole shots..... How short is the time you can edit a post now?!

Tekamul > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 03/30/2017 at 10:48

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To be fair, my motorcycles are weird. a 33 year old clapped out mess, a V-4 cruiser and an electric. My neighbors have been seen collecting pitchforks and oily rags.

Blunion05 drives a pink S2000 (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 10:48

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If people are concerned about housing values, they moved to the wrong place. They should have moved into a neighborhood that’s got an HOA.

Flavien Vidal > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 03/30/2017 at 10:52

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It cleaarly mention that it violates Virginia Beach city codes, so I don’t see a difference with your HOA logic... Don’t live in a place where there are restrictions aimed toward these kind of vehicles...

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 10:54

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Im going to go ahead and continue to park an ugly beat to shit e36 on my driveway. Yes it stands out, no I dont care.

Pixel > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 11:05

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Wow, you appear to think that “weird” is an inherently bad thing that needs to be hidden from the world.

Fuck that.

If what I am doing is legally permitted by the laws of the place I’m doing it, I refuse to hide it from the world. I’ll make basic concessions to not being an asshole (no engine reving or angle grinds late at night). However, if they are bothered by the very existance of proof that not everyone else is as incredibly boring and terrified of standing out as they are, that is their problem and not mine.

And if they try and make it my problem, you can bet I will fight it tooth and nail. Other people don’t get to tell me “You’re weird, stop being weird so I can pretend people like you don’t exist.”

Your logic is literally the exact same one that resulted in the bullshit “Don’t ask. Don’t tell.” policy. You are telling people they are only allowed to be different if they hide it from the world and pretend to be “normal” like everyone else.

haveacarortwoorthree2 > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 03/30/2017 at 11:07

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Not in his driveway — has to park in his yard. Against city code. City disagrees he can keep it there. Judge disagrees he can keep it there. He’s had his day in court and lost. Nothing prevents him from moving someplace without ordinances/codes. Nothing prevents him from owning it and storing it someplace other than his yard.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > crowmolly 03/30/2017 at 11:07

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Not likely, tbh. That being said, I live next to a train and am often being blasted by reggaeton from the cell-phone stand next door that thinks that being as loud as possible will make their business better. I’m also very, very sensitive to sound, so if I’m not complaining then nosy suburbanites shouldn’t be.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Flavien Vidal 03/30/2017 at 11:12

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An HOA has an agreement in which the rules are clearly laid out and that you have to sign agreement to comply by. You also often don’t actually “own” the property in such communities. I don’t believe a city has the same right to dictate what people can do with their property and I’d love to see the ACLU go up against one some day on fourth amendment grounds.

Danger > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 11:13

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Why don’t you stop worrying so much about other people?

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Tekamul 03/30/2017 at 11:14

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You go back behind closed doors where you belong, WEIRDO!

DAWRX - The Herb Strikes Back > crowmolly 03/30/2017 at 11:16

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It blows my mind to think that people don’t read the contracts they sign when they move into a neighborhood, or get up to date with local laws and ordinances before they make decisions like this.

And because they didn’t take the time to do that its suddenly a news story?

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 11:18

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If you conform so easily to the whims of others, do you really have any passion or hobbies to begin with? Your argument is “If someone doesn’t like what you do, you need to stop!” as if the person who has a problem with it is automatically in the right.

Let’s practice a phrase here - just because you’re offended doesn’t mean you’re right.

Flavien Vidal > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 03/30/2017 at 11:18

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It’s on the same level as Trump an his massive huge US flag on his property that annoyed all his neighbors. You’re not allowed to be utterly noisy on your property, neither are you allowed to be utterly stinky nor can you be an eyesore. Some senses are not worth more than other when it comes to pissing off the people around you. I have to be careful not to be too noisy... I have to make sure you don’t smell me from afar... Oh, you mean that 20ft tall clown riding a horse statue?? Fuck off, it’s on my property!!

Don’t be a pain in the ass... It’s easy, just rent a place for the toys you can’t park inside your home.

For Sweden > Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif 03/30/2017 at 11:29

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Closed closet doors?

diplodicus > PartyPooper2012 03/30/2017 at 11:31

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I can’t believe the shit people complain about. I had a lady yell at my dog for playing with her dog at the dog park because she didn’t want her dog to get dirty.

Lumpy44, Proprietor Of Fine Gif > For Sweden 03/30/2017 at 11:31

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PartyPooper2012 > diplodicus 03/30/2017 at 11:42

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People suck in general. Shit like this makes people dislike people... makes people who dislike people get military trucks.

marshknute > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 03/30/2017 at 12:32

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You’re still missing my point.

I never said you should stop being yourself. If you have a weird hobby, by all means pursue it. But if you do it publicly, some NIMBY will get annoyed and start making life hard for you.

So try to preemptively mitigate the public impact of your hobby. Don’t give people a reason to complain, and you’ll never have to stop enjoying your hobby.

marshknute > Danger 03/30/2017 at 12:35

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That’s the thing. I’m NOT worried about other people. I’m worried about myself.

It’s annoying if NIMBY’s start pestering/suing/litigating against me. I don’t like to be annoyed. Therefore I have the foresight to mitigate the public impact of my weird hobbies so neighbors have no reason to complain in the first place.

marshknute > Pixel 03/30/2017 at 12:42

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Actually, no, my point is that if you mess with the bull, you should expect the horns.

If you want to exercise your rights, fine, but don’t expect any sympathy from me when a bunch of NIMBY’s outlaw your precious hobby.

Anticipate that shit and preemptively minimize the public impact of your hobby so they don’t complain in the first place. It’s never good to be in the position of asking for forgiveness not permission.

If you’re OK with the legal battles and bitter neighbors, that’s fine, but you brought that headache on yourself.

marshknute > DipodomysDeserti 03/30/2017 at 12:49

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Wouldn’t the truck rust just as much in the front yard? Does the house create a rain shadow effect that results in different weather patterns on each side?!?

Neighbors don’t care if you park weird shit in your backyard. It’s out of sight and out of mind. It’s not an eyesore, and it doesn’t effect property values. But more importantly for us Jalops, it doesn’t give them a reason to complain.

But this guy didn’t do that and it cost him his hobby. He followed your advice and he lost, so you haven’t offered a valid counterpoint to my argument.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 13:42

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But you’re still missing the point I and others are trying to make - unless your complaint has actual merit, it’s just hot gas. In this case, yes the guy was breaking some actual laws regarding the storage and use of an oversized passenger vehicle. The complaint has merit. But understand - If your complaint has no actual merit, then I will do what I want and if I want to do it in public then as long as it is legal your complaints mean nothing to me.

Actually, I’ll fire back at you - why wouldn’t you let your weirdness out in public? That bothers me. People who won’t be open and public about what they love concern me. I find people who aren’t too open and public about what they love, even if it is “weird” tend to be into some stuff that is actually illegal.

marshknute > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 03/30/2017 at 14:21

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I mean if you’re fine dealing with the hot gas, then power to you.

To me, it seems like winning in traffic court. You still lose because you went to court. For me, life’s more enjoyable without enemies and without needless hassle.

What stands out to me about this guy is the fact that he was stopped by a BS application of a vaguely related ordinance. Nobody actually had a safety concern about an oversized vehicle, but they used that as an excuse to stop him. Had he just taken some minimal steps not to stand out then he wouldn’t be in this situation.

A bit of preventative maintenance goes a long way.

Danger > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 18:37

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“Oh my, a boxy vehicle, possibly green, am I in Kosovo, Syria, or Iowa? I’ve forgotten. Let me clutch my pearls in surprise and disgust.”-You

Everyone else-

marshknute > Danger 03/30/2017 at 19:15

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“Oh, look honey, our neighbor has a military vehicle parked in his driveway. So that means he’s either a gun-toting psycho, an asshole who flouts his weird hobby publicly, or both. Why don’t we just skip to the next house?”

-Literally every S.O. on a house-hunting tour.

BTW, your gif makes no sense considering the townspeople DID freak out and DID get his hobby banned. Because people react like assholes when you’re an asshole to them.

Danger > marshknute 03/30/2017 at 19:45

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At what point might you consider that you could be wrong about something?

marshknute > Danger 03/30/2017 at 22:07

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Considering the judge ruled against the homeowner, I find it hard to believe that myself and the angry neighbors are in the wrong.

marshknute > Urambo Tauro 03/30/2017 at 22:20

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It’s obviously not a commercial vehicle. He was being an asshole, so they bent the rules to shut him down. That never would have happened if he parked his truck out of sight in his backyard or a storage facility.